I find it extraordinary that doctors lack the insight and research to work out how to improve their Long Covid themselves. I had to treat myself for Covid and came out sweet, because I did my research. If I had listened to GPs, I would have ended up in hospital and been put on a respirator and ended up with Long Covid, also. If the NHS Long Covid centres are anything like the Australian ones, they won't provide much insight, so they really should take their health into their own hands, as many of us were forced to do because of their covid incompetence. They completely ignore how the combination of vaccination and covid may have worsened their conditions, and focus on protection at work (air purifiers are a very good idea, of course, but for everyone, not just healthcare workers) as if they would never have caught covid if they were not working in healthcare!
Absolutely. It is difficult to take pity on the condition of these doctors and empathise with them, because of their failure to keep their ears and eyes wide open on how many countries in the world got rid of this virus almost totally and how this was mainly the work of thousands and thousands of their compatriots there. As Katnika rightly said, it is not even clear whether there condition was due to repeat vaccinations. Still it could have happened to them because of their failure to take early, simple respiratory infection treatments. This is a malady of the West from repeat vaccinations and reinfections. I have not heard a single story of this kind from doctors in India, even long Covid cases here could be here or there type. Yes, like common patients, doctors too succumbed here in 2020 and early 2021, but that was before correct clinical options were identified. Somebody should advise these doctors to first see the several podcasts of Dr. McMillan on LC/LV, including his classic discussions with Dr. Shankara Chetty on treatment options. The government must help them with their lives and livelihoods, but the question of their return to normal health is totally in their hands.
As an "original" Covid Longhauler (Feb. 2020), I so appreciate your message and pledge. Thank you for your determination and focus. And for all that you do to help this post viral syndrome/ group. I am available to support your purpose in any way that I can. ~Leslie
Your commitment is very much appreciated. I do believe - albeit without much data other than personal experience - that keeping hope alive does help to relax the autonomic nervous system and keep the body somewhat in a healing state. Despair seems to worsen symptoms for many Long Covid and ME/CFS patients. The community does need doctors who offer hope: who get the complexity, the misery of the condition, and the difficulties of speaking truth to power but who will press on regardless.
There could be plenty of work being done on long Covid and now long Vax, but they all seem to be staying as loose ends. They all need to be put together from the angle of some important questions. Dr. McMillan may be doing his bit, but key researchers need to come together to have the available knowledge disseminated far and wide. The most important is the effective treatments for the key manifestations of the condition. Things cannot get medically as helpless as these doctors in this story feel. In fact, they are not. Like in the case of the infection itself, the successful experiences need to be widely shared. The second is the role of the lingering spike proteins in the lingering conditions of patients. The behaviour of the spike remains from the infection need not be the same as those from the vaccines. Their structures are different and research should find out if the two produce two different cohorts among patients. Even the treatment options may require to be different. This is not a simple omnibus condition, as is being considered now. This thorough study of these two types of remnants is essential, not only to bring relief to the current patients but also into the future.
As you have touched on re vaccination and Long Covid, it doesn’t help that, for example, that a very good research paper came out showing the effects of Covid virus “and it’s proteins” such as inflammation etc without identifying whether it is really the spike protein at fault, which Dr Shankara Chetty has long claimed. This indication by researchers about what is causing b the to Ken then gives the Vax pushers an out; because if the virus is causing cancer you have a good case for preventing Covid with vaccinations but if it is the spike protein then you have to question the wisdom of injecting an MrNA vax that promotes our cells to produce Spine Protejn for six months or so. It is so obvious and simple, but these very good researchers are willfully clutching at the elephants tail instead of seeing the very simple elephant in full.
Thank you for all your determination to keep pushing!
Appreciated.
It is taking much longer than I thought at first.
I find it extraordinary that doctors lack the insight and research to work out how to improve their Long Covid themselves. I had to treat myself for Covid and came out sweet, because I did my research. If I had listened to GPs, I would have ended up in hospital and been put on a respirator and ended up with Long Covid, also. If the NHS Long Covid centres are anything like the Australian ones, they won't provide much insight, so they really should take their health into their own hands, as many of us were forced to do because of their covid incompetence. They completely ignore how the combination of vaccination and covid may have worsened their conditions, and focus on protection at work (air purifiers are a very good idea, of course, but for everyone, not just healthcare workers) as if they would never have caught covid if they were not working in healthcare!
Absolutely. It is difficult to take pity on the condition of these doctors and empathise with them, because of their failure to keep their ears and eyes wide open on how many countries in the world got rid of this virus almost totally and how this was mainly the work of thousands and thousands of their compatriots there. As Katnika rightly said, it is not even clear whether there condition was due to repeat vaccinations. Still it could have happened to them because of their failure to take early, simple respiratory infection treatments. This is a malady of the West from repeat vaccinations and reinfections. I have not heard a single story of this kind from doctors in India, even long Covid cases here could be here or there type. Yes, like common patients, doctors too succumbed here in 2020 and early 2021, but that was before correct clinical options were identified. Somebody should advise these doctors to first see the several podcasts of Dr. McMillan on LC/LV, including his classic discussions with Dr. Shankara Chetty on treatment options. The government must help them with their lives and livelihoods, but the question of their return to normal health is totally in their hands.
As an "original" Covid Longhauler (Feb. 2020), I so appreciate your message and pledge. Thank you for your determination and focus. And for all that you do to help this post viral syndrome/ group. I am available to support your purpose in any way that I can. ~Leslie
Thank you Leslie.
Your commitment is very much appreciated. I do believe - albeit without much data other than personal experience - that keeping hope alive does help to relax the autonomic nervous system and keep the body somewhat in a healing state. Despair seems to worsen symptoms for many Long Covid and ME/CFS patients. The community does need doctors who offer hope: who get the complexity, the misery of the condition, and the difficulties of speaking truth to power but who will press on regardless.
Thank you David.
There could be plenty of work being done on long Covid and now long Vax, but they all seem to be staying as loose ends. They all need to be put together from the angle of some important questions. Dr. McMillan may be doing his bit, but key researchers need to come together to have the available knowledge disseminated far and wide. The most important is the effective treatments for the key manifestations of the condition. Things cannot get medically as helpless as these doctors in this story feel. In fact, they are not. Like in the case of the infection itself, the successful experiences need to be widely shared. The second is the role of the lingering spike proteins in the lingering conditions of patients. The behaviour of the spike remains from the infection need not be the same as those from the vaccines. Their structures are different and research should find out if the two produce two different cohorts among patients. Even the treatment options may require to be different. This is not a simple omnibus condition, as is being considered now. This thorough study of these two types of remnants is essential, not only to bring relief to the current patients but also into the future.
As you have touched on re vaccination and Long Covid, it doesn’t help that, for example, that a very good research paper came out showing the effects of Covid virus “and it’s proteins” such as inflammation etc without identifying whether it is really the spike protein at fault, which Dr Shankara Chetty has long claimed. This indication by researchers about what is causing b the to Ken then gives the Vax pushers an out; because if the virus is causing cancer you have a good case for preventing Covid with vaccinations but if it is the spike protein then you have to question the wisdom of injecting an MrNA vax that promotes our cells to produce Spine Protejn for six months or so. It is so obvious and simple, but these very good researchers are willfully clutching at the elephants tail instead of seeing the very simple elephant in full.